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Help welcome - Difficulty starting the 2.8 turbo cooler diesel engine from Cold in the morning. Once started and warmed up it will restart easily. It has recently been fitted with new glow plugs. It is necessary to hand pump the fuel before attempting to start and even then it still requires a lot of turning on the starter motor to get it to fire. This will be followed by rough running for a minute or two and then it settles down and is fine.
By the way it is a 4x4 I think Sportrak "J" registration so about 1990. Any thoughts or suggestions will be very welcome. I would like to keep it on the road if at all possible although it doesn't justify a lot of expense to do so, especially garage labour charges astronomical as they are. I don't have any owners manuals or repair manuals for the vehicle so I am working very much in the dark in terms of trying to figure out what can be done to correct the problem.
Many thanks in anticipation of your thoughts
pd7
If it's a 2.8 Diesel, it's a
If it's a 2.8 Diesel, it's a Fourtrak. Unless someone has been busy doing some sort of conversion. Not unheard of.
Sound like you have leak in the Diesel system. There will be air getting into the system when the engine is not running (Fule slipping back to the tank. The 'ruff' starting will be the last of the air comming through, after you've primed the system with the hand pump. As the engine then runs fine, I'd guess the leak is after the lift pump. If it was befor the pump you would find the engine would keep packing up as the pump pulles more air into the system.
Try looking for Diesel leaking out when the engine is runing. Probably from pump. Possibly from lose injecter pipe?
Any veiws expresed in this thread by me are purely from my own experience, and (sometimes) falible memory. Hope my comments help, but please don't take them as gospel.
Poor starting
Sounds just like my Fourtrak when I purchased it, seller fitted new battery as he thought that was the problem, but it actualy was a a rotted/pin holed fuel line from tank to lift pump. Fuel was running back to the tank and the when left overnight was having to self bleed the air out of the system. Once started all was okay, till next morning !!!!!!.
Edward (ews) '92 Fourtrak 2.8 TDX
Starting problems.
N Mills.
Hi there, I think the previous post has just about covered it, my suspicions would be toward the lift pump (secondary pump) as my 4trak had a replacement diesel pump & within a short time it was back at the garage when-guess what, they diagnosed the lift pump, after which the problem disappeared.....
Hasten to add, I didn't pay for this it was the previous owner.
Rgds Nick
N Mills
Fourtrak starting problems
Pd7
Thanks folks. All those comments sound about right. I will check them out today. Thanks for comming back so quickly. I thought it was a something trak?
Forgive the dumbness there is no documentation of any kind with the vehicle. Any hints on where I might get a photocopy of the drivers manual?
Pd7
Fueled Up
Sounds like the old problem of the faulty non return valve in the fuel filter housing, the weight of the fuel in the line sucks the fuel back down the pipe, into the tank over a period of time. Test this by bleeding the system, put a pipe onto the bleed nipple and put this into a glass jar with 1" of clean fuel in the bottom, operate the hand pump and see if largish quantities of fuel are expelled into the jar, if not it is the non return valve. If the system takes a lot of bleeding, this is another indicator.
online help
You should try to get manual from online.I think there must me owner manual available in electronic form.So try to find it.I always search my papers of 70-270 online.Many time I found my required material and purchased.