Submitted by pmgash on Tue, 24/08/2010 - 02:12
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Hi all, I've just bought an '02 Sirion 4Trak, I would appreciate some advice. I was looking for a nippy town car with 4 wheel drive and I saw this; yeah, why not, I'll try anything once! Just over a 100hp and Yaris reliability, just the thing. I hope it's good in the snow!
I've got a couple of problems. The gear change is terrible, I think the linkage bushes are worn, it's like stirring porridge! Is this a normal thing for a car with 70k on the clock?
Are there any bush kits available? I've spent many hours searching, no success! I think I'm going to have to go to the main dealers.
One other thing, are the cars OBD2 compliant?
Thank you for any advice.
Paul.
Sloppy gearchange
It's always been my impression from new that my YRVs gearchange was 'sloppy', and it is just the same at 63k miles. You can waggle the gearstick quite widely in neutral against the centralising springs. You get used to it!
The Sirion and YRV gearchange mechanisms are probably quite similar.
It will be most noticeable if you've come to the Sirion from something with a tight gearchange.
I think on the Rally 4 version of the Sirion, Trevor Levy, who designed and supplied the conversion mods shortened the gearlever throw on the Rally. It was certainly an option you could buy at the time. Maybe Daihatsu still stock the modified gear lever.
YRV Tony
He Did Indeed !!
Shorten the gearstick and throw.
Trevor Levy that is !!
I understood it was done to all Rally 4s and 2s.
But I will bow to anyone who can say definitely it was an option.
Mine definitely has a short throw compared to the other Sirions I have had.
Intersting.
Bob.
2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.
Gear Change.
Sirions are usually the other way around and are tight.
I beleive main dealer will be your only choice for a kit (If they have one that is)
They are not quite the same as the rod linkage systems found on older cars.
As for the bushes etc.I fear you will have to buy the whole system new, as most cars and manufacturers these days don't supply bits and pieces - just the whole items complete.
Please let us know how you go on ok.
As for the engine - The engine is a Daihatsu design and was taken over by Toyota when they bought Daihatsu out.
Daihatsu and Yamaha worked together to develop the VVT system, so you have Daihatsu to thank for the reliability.
I had a 4 Trac and it was great in the winter, but I have a second set of wheels with Intermediate Tyres on just for the winter.
The Rally 4 I have now is obviously just as good in the Snow and I had no problem at all last winter with it - but of course no car is good in Solid Ice conditions.
But take it steady and you should be fine - you will just have to watch out for the other idiots around you.
I understand they are compliant with OBD2.
Some one on here should be able to confirm that for you. I keep thinking I might get a Scanguage 2 or something similar, but I haven't got around to it yet.
You can help me please.
If you ever see a 4 Trac or a Rally 4 in a scrap yard please let me know ok.
Regards, Bob F.
ps I have the full workshop Manual for your car. If you want a copy - Private message me.
2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.
As Bob has said, but to add
As Bob has said, but to add there should be an OBDII connector on this car. If it is the same as the YRV the port will be located on the drivers side to the left bottom of the centre console. And yes a Scangauge II is a really good investment
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'53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo/ '53' Plate Black Subaru Impreza WRX STi PPP
Approx. 147BHP/305BHP
I must have a proper look !
I must have a proper look to see if there is a connector as you say Jon.
But Electrics on cars are my nemesis, especially all the new stuff.
I will have to look at the diagrams I have as well.
Cheers, BobF.
2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.
I'll let you know
I've got an OBD2 lead and loads of software that I've used on a few cars, I'll let you all know which software, if any, works.
I'm going to have a spare set of steel rims with winter tyres. I've got the car to use in Leipzig, East Germany. Their winters, believe it or not, are harsher than ours!
Bob, I've sent you a PM.
Thanks everyone for your advice, hopefully I can reciprocate when I get back to the UK with my OBD gear.
Paul.
OBD2
I finally got around to checking the car. Just to confirm, it is OBD2 compliant. The connector and software I have is an ELM 327 connector and easyOBDII software, bought off ebay a couple of years ago.
I've had a quick look, you can get the ELM 327 cables for less than