Submitted by ellis700 on Mon, 22/02/2010 - 22:52
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I am on my second Sirion, this one being a 1.3 SE auto 07 reg. Had it from new. Had it serviced last march when told it needed new front brake discs. After some discussion they were changed under warranty, car had done 13000miles in the 2 years.
Had it tested last week before last service under warranty and independent tester said that i would need new discs on front next year, AGAIN!
It has only done 3000m this year.
I know low mileage can cause some of these problems but 2 sets of discs in 4 years is a bit much.
Has anyone encountered this problem with theirs or am i just unlucky, even Daihatsu technical were surprised.
Thanks
Keith
Sirion Brakes
Just signed up for the forum because I saw the comment re the Sirion brakes. I had to have my front brakes and pads replaced at my second service. I'd only done 12,000 miles. The garage said it was caused by the grit put down for the ice and snow scoring the discs. Phoned Diahatsu main dealers and they phoned the garage and agreed with them -so - fair wear and tear!!!!! therefore no luck with the warranty. It cost me nearly £400 to replace these. Is this going to be happening every two years?
Probably !
So next time come on here earlier and we can get you good discs for £25/£30 a pair.
Or super discs at £50 a pair
Or Super Duper Discs at £75 a pair.
You just need to fit them yourself if you can or use a back street garage and save a fortune.
Bob.
2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.
Your lucky you don't drive a
Your lucky you don't drive a YRV Turbo. I'm replacing mine after 2 years, but then I don't drive like miss Daisy
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Miss Daisy !!
But I'm told you look like her !!
2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.
Now now
Now now gents.............lol
Talking of what people look like, it will be strange to meet you all, as if like me, you build a mental picture of what people look like. I've seen YOU Bob on facebook on the Daihatsu Drivers section
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2004 Yellow YRV Turbo
Post up a link Wayne as I've
Post up a link Wayne as I've never met Bob. Have met Tony though
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'53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo/ '53' Plate Black Subaru Impreza WRX STi PPP
Approx. 147BHP/305BHP
DISCS
any idea of minimum spec for the discs? I need to skimm mine as a pad pad caused damage!
Disc thickness
Says minimum 15mm thickness in YRV manual and I think the discs are the same as the Sirion's.
Pattern discs are quite inexpensive if it comes to replacement.
YRV Tony
Tony is Correct. !!
15mm minimum.
Bob.
2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.
Brake discs
Since asbestos was banned from use in brake pads, disc material has changed to softer iron to compensate for the different pad composition, making modern discs very prone to rust.
If you use the car frequently, braking will remove the light rusting each time. If you don't use the car all that often the rust will build up during the periods of inactivity so that it isn't fully removed when you next drive.
It might help if you give the brakes some serious welly when you do use the car and also try not to leave the car with wet brakes, by heating them up by use before parking up.
Your experience is not unusual. The good news is that it's easy to change the discs and that you can purchase pattern discs for less than £50 the pair.
YRV Tony
YRV Tony
Nope!!
My First Sirion did 72,000 miles before it needed any new pads or discs.
My Second Sirion was about the same.
The Sirion I have now had new Discs on at the service just before I got it about 6 months ago.
It was Six Years Old and had 36,000 on the clock.
I have no real answer for you. But I will suggest something that you may not like.
Driving Technique can make all the difference to the wear on your Brakes.
I look well ahead and try always to be at the right speed for anything I see so I keep braking to a minimum - so less wear and scoring on the Discs.
Some like to accelerate everywhere and brake like crazy. (I call them Gas and Brake men)
Now I'm not saying you are either of these as I do not know you and I wouldn't really try to tell anyone how they should drive - That is up to them.
If you do like me I would suggest there is a problem with the brakes somehow.
If you don't and are a Gas and Brake man - You have your answer !!
Sorry - I'm only making suggestions as you asked. It is meant to help - Not annoy ok.
Cheers, Bob F.
2003 Sirion Rally 4. And I love it.
Don't like the new shape Sirion much.Sorry.
Brake Discs
I agree with all that has been written but at 3,000 miles per year rust on the surface of the discs has to be a problem. Is the car garaged? Leaving it outside will do wonders for rust build up and such light usage will not give the pads much opportunity to clear it away before more rust forms the next time it is stood. I don't think it matters much what car you buy as the same thing could easily happen but at least with drums on the back you have only 50% of the problem that you might get on other cars. Having said that my Sirion [2005] is a rusty little so and so when it comes to discs so there may be something in the way the make them.
Regards
Stephen
Daihatsu parts in general are
Daihatsu parts in general are not favoured (Even by the dealers) as I found out recently when I was at my local dealership they were complaining abou the amount of sirions coming in for disc replacements. Your best bet is to try an aftermarket part. Recently I have bought some new discs and pads from godspeed brakes at a fraction of the price Daihatsu wanted, and these are performance ones so should last longer.
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'53' Plate Yellow YRV Turbo/ '53' Plate Black Subaru Impreza WRX STi PPP
Approx. 147BHP/305BHP